Lemon, Pine, Cannabis Essential Oils

[coreybamboo]

Hello Toastus,

I was reading your posts on this on the yuku forum...

I am intrigued by your experimentation with lemon oil, pine oil, and cannabis oil. Have your determined which chemical(s) is/are responsible for the psychedelic effects?
I have questions about the oils (lemon, pine, cannabis) specifically. Is it necessary to utilize the oilahuasca activation techniqes to induce psychedelic effects? How many drops of lemon/pine/cannabis essential oil did you use? Oral or topical use? Also, what brand of lemon oil do you use? I currently have young living, but have not experimented with it for psychedelic purposes yet.

[Toasty]

I've never used cannabis oils, but I've used lemon and pine oils extensively.

I can tell you that, in lemon oil, the yellow waves, sparkling white light, and archetypal patterns are generated by y-Terpinene acting on the D1 dopamine receptor. D1 upregulates AMPA receptors, so the yellow waves are from D1, while the archetypal patterns and sparkling white light are from AMPA (and persist even after the yellow waves subside).

D1 generates motivation and addiction (but only in combination with an addictive substance; otherwise it's just motivational).

It affects both motivation and addiction through its upregulation of AMPA receptors. Theoretically this is how piracetam works. So in this respect y-terpinene is like a much more effective form of piracetam that upregulates AMPA instead of temporarily boosting it (however this will get less strong over time as D1 downregulates from the constant stimulation).

I can tell you that AMPA is one of the primary causes of visual effects. It bears a signature that is accessed by 5-HT2A. You can see this biologically play out because 5-HT2A upregulates both AMPA and BDNF, and BDNF further upregulates AMPA.

AMPA increases imagination. It causes photographic memory. Lemon oil taps into this.

AMPA-containing neurons directly connect the pineal gland to many of the circuits that process mystical information. Boosting AMPA directly boosts your pineal antenna. Lemon oil strongly stimulates third eye function through this pathway: D1 -> AMPA upregulation. This is one of the primary reasons I use lemon oil.

I can tell you that in lemon oil the green swirls are from a brief activation of the 5-HT7 receptor by an as yet undetermined oil. 5-HT7 governs the perception of novelty... but this unknown oil is metabolized so quickly that it is useless for this effect. It will actually downregulate 5-HT7 before you even notice any novelty. But you will notice green and white visual energies... Lime green from 5-HT7's upregulation of GABA-B receptors (GABA-B reproduces this color on its own), and sparkling white from 5-HT7's upregulation of AMPA (differently than D1, doesn't cause any of the same effects except the perception of sparkling white light).

I can tell you that the most important effect of all is the effect of beta-pinene on the acetylcholine system. b-Pinene is in both lemon oil and pine oil. It inhibits acetylcholinesterase, the enzyme that breaks down acetylcholine. When acetylcholine is boosted across the whole brain like this, your IQ is temporarily boosted.

Brainfog is lifted. Information flows clearly. Stored information is collected and accessed by the prefrontal cortex more efficiently. These are caused by the alpha-7 nicotinic acetylcholine receptor. Rate of thought increases dramatically because of the muscarinic receptors (unsure of which one).

You can temporarily become a supercomputer. This is the main reason I use lemon oil.

One time I used it on a school test to see how well it would increase my ability to remember. I photographically remembered things that I completely forgot that we had covered in class. I would have failed that exam if I hadn't taken lemon oil, but because my mind was working properly I got a 99.

Alpha-7 also affects visuals. If you take pine oil it will dramatically enhance your sensitivity to the subtle visuals that most people don't notice. This usually only works if you detoxify your pineal gland... But if you do whatever it is that I did, you will be able to see similar subtle visuals from every subtle food-drug you consume. Lemons, caffeine, calcium, oranges, limes, sugar, fats, butter, sunlight, mushrooms (regular ones), green foods, almost all food produces some type of subtle psychedelic visual that you will be able to notice. Then you can track which foods affect which receptors.

[Toasty]

No oilahuasca activators are needed. They work as they are.

At first you will need 20-40 drops. I used them in 00 and 000 capsules. After you become tuned into its effects you will notice them from one drop. When I eat one slice of lemon I immediately notice its effects.

I have used many different brands, and all of them have worked equally well.

[username]

You want balsam fir needle oil from Canada it contains 30% beta-pinene.

Almost any oil that is going to be put under tongue or swallowed raw or in capsules should first be mixed about 50/50 with olive oil and some peanut butter, other butters work to some degree as well like sunflower butter, almond, etc etc just not regular butter from cows milk.

Yes you can get a psychedelic effect from lemon oil stand alone as long as it contains 10% beta-pinene and 10% gamma-terpinene.

Cannabis contains gamma-terpinene as one of its larger contributing factors to its effects, it also contains good portions of beta-pinene.

The active is y-terpinene and it requires b-pinene before or with it for y-terp to be active, this is NOT oilahuasca but this is a psychedelic mixture in its own right. Oilahuasca is much more complicated.

You can contact the company that makes the oil you have and ask if they have a list of chemical components of the oil by percentage, or you can ask what the season of harvest and country of origin the plant was grown in, and from Google you can find articles detailing the chemical constituents of the oil from that country by %.

Oral ingestion is effective, but many find topical absorption to be any ware from 2x as potent to as much as 10x as potent as oral. Topical is usually equal or more potent then inhalation wile inhalation usually can have a slightly higher peak with a slightly shorter duration of total effects.

[username]

Toasty go read Skype fucker lol

[username]

Also combining as many ROA as possible will lead to the most fully psychedelic experience.

Order of operation for me is usually:

10-50 drops in capsules with 50/50 olive oil, eat piece of bread or crackers with peanut butter right after you swallow it.

Wait 15 minutes

10-20 drops under tongue with olive oil and peanut butter.

Wait 15 minutes

1-15 drops topically with olive oil. Armpits are a good location.

1-5 drops on a piece of tissue held over nose inhaling slow and deep, holding each breath in for at least 5-10 seconds. Make sure to stop every 2 or 3 inhales and get a few lung fulls of air preferably outdoors fresh air. You can also use a very low temp vaporizer and or a diffuser.

If you follow this you will find that when you get to the end and start inhaling it the effects from inhalation will become very strong very quickly noticeable.

[coreybamboo]

Thanks for the great responses! Very enlightening and intelligent. I hope to one day have a third eye/pineal gland as active as you, Toasty. I took notes on the conversation while diffusing lemon oil!

Can sesame oil be used instead of olive oil? Would you also eat food (I prefer almond butter) when taking oilahuasca activators and allybenzenes?

[username]

Sesame oil should be fine with lemon oil but not for allylbenzenes.

esting food with lemon oil will make it stronger or weaker.

Eating foods with allylbenzenes will almost always prevent them from working unless it's bread or crackers with peanut or almond butter.

There is an extensive list of foods and substances to avoid in the week leading up to an attempt at oilahuasca and must be avoided on the day of the attempt. This list is fragmented on the herbwiki but I will post the list here. You can also look through posts by username on herbs max and one of my more recent posts in one of the activation threads outlines a fairly extensive list of things to avoid. I will post the full list here at some point and update it over time.

[coreybamboo]

Username is this the post you are referencing?

herbs.mxf.yuku.com/topic/16835140/Allylbenzene-Activation#.VCiAvWOGfh8

Thanks for your diligence and expertise within this subject. And thanks for willing to share with others...same goes for Toasty and 69ron, even though I've never interacted with him in a thread.

[bob]

I started experimenting with Lemon oil just recently. In fact ingesting essential oils is totaly new to me.
I did not have any gel caps so I took around 25 drops in some water. I could not feel any effects, but I was not sure what to look for either.
These posts help me a lot in defining the potential effects of lemon oil. I will continue my tests and see what happens.
Just a few questions:
What is the best moment to take them? How empty does the stomach need to be? Does alcohol influence in some way?
What kind of diet is necessary in the previous 24h hours?

Thanks a lot for your help

Bob

[username]

Bob for lemon oil if you got no gel capsules then ur best bet is to put all the drops directly in your mouth then pour a bunch of milk into your mouth then swish it together a bunch then swallow then drink a glass of milk.

If you got no milk then put the oil in your mouth then add a tablespoon or so of olive oil and another spoonful or peanut butter or almond butter then swish them together then swallow en eat some crackers or a piece of bread with peanut butter or almond butter.

The more empty the stomach is the more potent these will be.

1 drop of peppermint oil under tongue 1 hour prior will increase the odds of desired outcome dramatically.

You probably wasted all the oil you put in the water as most of these oils are almost entirely non water soluble.

Many of these oils are readily soluble in alcohol and many synergise well with alcohol.

[Toasty]

A few days ago I wanted to experiment with lemon oil again.
I took a 00 capsule, sprinkled some soy lecithin in it, and placed 10 drops from a medium size dropper (not sure what the standard is on this... we will have to standardize this shit lol) into the capsule. The oil was absorbed by the lecithin.

I swallowed it, and felt nothing for the rest of the day.

My stomach was not empty, and I didn't fast after taking the capsule.
I did not use olive oil or peanut butter.

So, maybe next time I will try it with olive oil and peanut butter.
Or maybe next time I will try 30 drops.
Or both.

[username]

Toastus may have depleted 5HT1A receptor counts and this should be kept in mind especially considering this is one of the main mechanisms responsible for a considerable chunk of the effects of lemon oil.

[Toasty]

Controls wellbeing and love. It's up to you to determine how much that alters the other effects.

Limonene is rapidly metabolized, so it depletes 5-HT1A as well.

[username]

Sept 28, 2014 21:46:38 GMT coreybamboo said:

Username is this the post you are referencing?

herbs.mxf.yuku.com/topic/16835140/Allylbenzene-Activation#.VCiAvWOGfh8

Thanks for your diligence and expertise within this subject. And thanks for willing to share with others...same goes for Toasty and 69ron, even though I've never interacted with him in a thread.

Yes at is my most recent thread from the old forum about activation, I am essentially going to have to extract the key points of that thread and post them in the activation thread on this forum.